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Air tanker crashes and second makes wheels-up landing

Started by Chris Kennedy, June 03, 2012, 05:49:13 PM

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Chris Kennedy

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Joe Copalman

Wow, that's spooky how little intact wreckage there is. 
"I'm sorry sir, you can't take photos of that aircraft."

"If you've seen my work, you'd know I really can't take photos of any aircraft." 

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Scott Youmans

I heard that the fire they were fighting overtook the area after the crash.  Aluminum pretty much goes away in fires.  Very sad in any case.
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Joe Copalman

^Yup.  The article that went along with the photos included a bit about molten aluminum streaming down the hill away from the crash site.  At least there were witness who saw it hit trees and cartwheel, instead of it being this mystery crash with little in the way of physical clues as to what happened. 
"I'm sorry sir, you can't take photos of that aircraft."

"If you've seen my work, you'd know I really can't take photos of any aircraft." 

Joe Copalman
AzAP Co-Founder
Mesa, AZ

Matt Ottosen

Here's the Reuters article:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/05/us-usa-wildfires-idUSBRE85400A20120605

They used my photo without consent or credit to me, the caption and credit actually reads:

QuoteA P2V Lockheed Martin firefighting air tanker is pictured in an undated handout photo obtained by Reuters June 4, 2012. A similar plane crashed near the White Rock fire in the Hamlin Valley area of Iron County, Utah June 3, 2012. Capt. Todd Neal Tompkins and First Officer Ronnie Edwin Chambless, both of Boise, Idaho were both killed in the crash.

Credit: Reuters/Iron County Sheriff's Office/Handout.
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Chris Kennedy

Chris Kennedy
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Matt Ottosen

Quote from: Chris Kennedy on June 05, 2012, 06:59:05 PM
That photo is on the Iron County Sheriff's Office web site. They may be the ones that distributed it.

http://www.ironcounty.net/departments/sheriff/index.php/press-release/air-tanker-crash/

Yes, I think you are correct, I have emailed both the Iron County Sheriff's Office and Reuters about this.

I guess this is the unfortunate downside to posting photos to the Internet...
Matt "Linus" Ottosen
Ottosen Photography
Phoenix, AZ

The Legend of the Guardian of the Line
The Greek God "Linus" comes from the Greek name Λινος (Linos) meaning "leg."
In Greek legend, he was the son of the God Apollo who was accidentally killed when he stepped over the white line.

All images © Matt Ottosen | Ottosen Photography, all rights reserved.

BillOz

I would have expected better from Reuters, and even the Sheriff's office.

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Chris Kennedy

From the NTSB preliminary report on the Tanker 11 crash:

While conducting its second retardant drop of the day, Tanker 11 followed behind the lead airplane into the drop zone. The drop zone was located in a shallow valley that was 0.4 miles wide and 350 feet deep. The lead airplane flew a shallow right-hand turn on to final, and dropped to an altitude of 150 feet above the valley floor over the intended drop area. While making the right turn on to final behind the lead plane, Tanker 11 impacted rising terrain that was about 700 feet left of the lead airplane's flight path.
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