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Aviation Locations and Aircraft Types => Military => Topic started by: Joe Copalman on June 18, 2009, 05:03:43 PM

Title: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Joe Copalman on June 18, 2009, 05:03:43 PM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3164/2928902640_a7dd960a4f_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24526864@N03/2928902640/)

Beale-based A-model parking at Willie.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: wingsnstuff on June 20, 2009, 11:56:50 AM
Did you see this bird when it was at Williams a little over a month ago?  I took some photos of it (certainly not as good as this), and it had a white cargo pack straped into the rear seat.  I just wondered if you know what it is for.  I've never seen that done before.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Joe Copalman on June 24, 2009, 03:24:05 PM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3346/3439240527_4b8d1f5195_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24526864@N03/3439240527/)

T-38C of 87th FTS "Red Bulls" storms out of Willie.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: David Loera on July 01, 2009, 09:27:48 PM
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2424/3620606691_5b9de3617e.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/burneraviation/3620606691/)

Holloman AFB "Roadrunners" 586th FTS
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: leaky_tiki on July 10, 2009, 11:42:36 AM
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2586/3707387304_31d835230b.jpg)

This was the one that was broken down for quite awhile, I don't remember which squadron she was with.  Someone shoot me an email if you know and I'll edit this.  Or if a Mod knows, feel free to edit as well.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: David Loera on July 10, 2009, 11:50:32 AM
i think it might be the one from Columbus
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Joe Copalman on July 10, 2009, 12:53:38 PM
Yup, Columbus.  The tailband gives it away.  Was this recent, or was this the one from last year that was there for well over a month?
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: leaky_tiki on July 10, 2009, 01:20:35 PM
Quote from: Joe Copalman on July 10, 2009, 12:53:38 PM
Yup, Columbus.  The tailband gives it away.  Was this recent, or was this the one from last year that was there for well over a month?

Thanks Guys.  It's old.  It was the one that was there for a month.  I'm just slow!
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: David Loera on July 10, 2009, 03:23:55 PM
I think it might be the same one that Matt got with the firetruck behind it.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Matt Ottosen on July 10, 2009, 07:47:36 PM
Quote from: David Loera on July 10, 2009, 03:23:55 PM
I think it might be the same one that Matt got with the firetruck behind it.

Phoenix-Mesa Gateway Airport
February 21, 2009

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3499/3299390238_28af1fc84f_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/matthewphx/3299390238/)
50th Flying Training Squadron "Strikin' Snakes"
Columbus AFB
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: David Loera on August 01, 2009, 04:11:59 PM
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2620/3778622649_833e333497.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/burneraviation/3778622649/)

50th FTS "Strikin' Snakes" Columbus AFB
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: David Loera on August 20, 2009, 07:50:59 PM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3344/3277323707_cd2ab97f90.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/burneraviation/3277323707/)

Sheppard Talon at Willie
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Rob Silliman on August 23, 2009, 12:25:55 PM
NASA T-38 Talon - N961NA - pulling into Williams for a pit stop on Sunday, Aug 23rd;

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3441/3849684222_fa30874ca8.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rob-the-org/3849684222/)

Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: BillOz on August 25, 2009, 09:51:21 PM
One of ED's birds droppin outta the sky
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Joe Copalman on August 28, 2009, 08:44:49 PM
One of eight Vance T-38s that stopped for gas this afternoon:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3147/3865417013_10c5fa6aac_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24526864@N03/3865417013/)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Joe Copalman on August 29, 2009, 08:08:04 PM
Another one of those 25th FTS Talons on final @ Willie:
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Matt Ottosen on August 29, 2009, 08:39:18 PM
Joe, very nice shot!
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: David Loera on August 29, 2009, 09:14:24 PM
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2561/3869743874_666de04db8.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/burneraviation/3869743874/)

25th FTS Vance AFB Oklahoma
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: redsox223 on August 31, 2009, 10:38:28 PM
I caught these guys on a Sunday morning around noon. Not a bad surprise for a Sunday morning when your expecting just the regular aircraft.

(http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs122.snc1/5248_542214216600_39901334_32194849_5187265_n.jpg)

(http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs142.snc1/5248_542214221590_39901334_32194850_2646786_n.jpg)

Of course they get priority over the planes that had been waiting for nearly 15 minutes for him to get over to the runway, hehe...
(http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs142.snc1/5248_542214226580_39901334_32194851_4359502_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: David Loera on September 12, 2009, 08:32:14 PM
we had 14 of these guys at willie this weekend
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: David Loera on September 19, 2009, 07:11:18 PM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3632/3397675482_df4c5fb763_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/burneraviation/3397675482/)
87th FTS Laughlin Air Force Base, Texas. "Redbulls"
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: David Loera on September 21, 2009, 02:45:44 PM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3171/3029604089_01df3ee30e_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/burneraviation/3029604089/)
560 FTS Randolph AFB "Black Eagles"
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: jslugman on October 04, 2009, 06:12:37 PM
My fave from Saturday at Willie.

"We'll be going that-a-way."

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3455/3981914088_1d79d5f5ec_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jay Beckman on October 04, 2009, 07:58:57 PM
Also from Saturday at Willie

Taxiing In:
(http://jcbeckman.zenfolio.com/img/v2/p660707584-4.jpg)

I went for the full on tandem view:
(http://jcbeckman.zenfolio.com/img/v4/p685442450-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Joe Copalman on October 05, 2009, 05:39:59 PM
Edwards-based Talon in the classic all-white paint scheme.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3464/3984946305_af28a92968_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24526864@N03/3984946305/)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: David Loera on October 05, 2009, 06:08:29 PM
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2440/3985060685_33829563b9.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/burneraviation/3985060685/)
NASA and a Beale Bird at Willie
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Joe Copalman on October 06, 2009, 08:44:53 AM
This is where I start singing "Ebony and Ivory."  :P
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: jslugman on October 06, 2009, 12:37:45 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: David Loera on October 10, 2009, 07:12:58 PM
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2631/3999900468_4be4fe9e56.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/burneraviation/3999900468/)
Beale Birds at Willie
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: redsox223 on October 10, 2009, 11:15:13 PM
From behind the fence
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2564/4000404246_e946e8c221_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Dave S. on October 12, 2009, 09:02:19 PM
One of this weekend's visitors to Willie.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Joe Copalman on October 17, 2009, 12:23:30 AM
Can you imagine traveling back in time and telling all the American pilots that were training at Williams Field during WWII to fly and fight against Nazi Germany that someday, Luftwaffe pilots would be trained by the US Air Force and would fly in and out of that same airfield they were training on?  Mindblowing if you think about it.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: David Loera on October 17, 2009, 08:47:09 PM
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2469/4020582831_babc07f8d4.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/burneraviation/4020582831/)
NASA Bird at Willie
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Ned Harris on October 25, 2009, 04:34:51 PM
USAF T-38 with HT tail code departing MCAS Yuma on 10-23-09.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: jslugman on October 25, 2009, 05:49:26 PM
That's a smart looking paint job.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jay Beckman on October 25, 2009, 10:09:54 PM
Quote from: Joe Copalman on October 17, 2009, 12:23:30 AM
Can you imagine traveling back in time and telling all the American pilots that were training at Williams Field during WWII to fly and fight against Nazi Germany that someday, Luftwaffe pilots would be trained by the US Air Force and would fly in and out of that same airfield they were training on?  Mindblowing if you think about it.

The first time I saw an Antenov at Nellis and shots of MiGs at Red Flag (Indian Navy IIRC), I thought nearly the exact same thing about Russians...
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Joe Copalman on November 05, 2009, 10:44:32 AM
Two not-so-common things going on here that I dig - full serial presented on the tail, and taxiing with the canopies closed.  They're typically open by the time they pull onto the ramp.  Red Bull's C-model at Willie:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2498/3910237043_36bdcdc43e_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24526864@N03/3910237043/)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: jslugman on November 05, 2009, 06:34:35 PM
Well his buddy with the short serial come to DM today.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3530/4079285404_56538bea20_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Joe Copalman on February 27, 2010, 11:14:20 PM
Trio of 50th FTS birds arriving at Willie.

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4394307424_a1b8bf52d3_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24526864@N03/4394307424/"%20Snakes%20by%20joe_stremph,%20on%20Flickr)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Stephen Marshall on February 28, 2010, 12:37:03 AM
Another of the Trio.

(http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/2181/williesat2.jpg)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: F-16_fixer on February 28, 2010, 09:20:27 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4031/4397407088_6b38a68ec9_b.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2747/4397403924_a6a6ab2a92_b.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4072/4397403140_37e4bea2fe_b.jpg)

Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jay Beckman on March 26, 2010, 11:14:15 PM
NASA Bird Departing Willie on 3/24
(http://jcbeckman.zenfolio.com/img/v10/p136740935-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: redsox223 on March 27, 2010, 06:41:01 PM
Ode to Joe

(http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs105.snc3/15294_556691349310_39901334_32672110_3070025_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: David Loera on March 28, 2010, 10:01:40 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4062/4472555482_19d53ba4b8_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/burneraviation/4472555482/)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Rob Silliman on March 30, 2010, 08:10:24 AM
T-38 departing Sky Harbor on Saturday afternoon.

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4072/4476636624_041860a1d6_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rob-the-org/4476636624/)

Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jay Beckman on April 02, 2010, 01:05:29 AM
That's a cool catch Rob!
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: David Loera on April 16, 2010, 10:38:44 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4054/4527644876_44b4a09c1a_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/burneraviation/4527644876/)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: jslugman on April 17, 2010, 10:47:14 AM
Very nice, Wiz!
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jay Beckman on April 22, 2010, 09:29:37 PM
Beale Bird at Willy on 4/22

On The Ramp
(http://jcbeckman.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p794347003-4.jpg)

Taxiing Out
(http://jcbeckman.zenfolio.com/img/v0/p576633403-5.jpg)

On The Climb
(http://jcbeckman.zenfolio.com/img/v11/p1027459343-5.jpg)

(http://jcbeckman.zenfolio.com/img/v4/p556693223-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Chris V on May 15, 2010, 10:43:18 PM
one from today at Willie.

(http://cv-photozz.smugmug.com/Airplanes/Military-Aircraft-Vehicles/IMG6633/868220864_Wqvkq-XL.jpg)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: David Loera on May 18, 2010, 09:31:30 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4026/4620016539_7872b7a1f7.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/burneraviation/4620016539/)
SIX
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Warbird Keith on May 22, 2010, 09:47:16 PM
 8)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Dave S. on May 24, 2010, 08:17:28 PM
Taking advantage of the over-flow lot at KIWA during the 787's visit, caught this departure after a gas-n-go.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jay Beckman on June 02, 2010, 10:32:34 PM
Plane, White Wrapper heads back to Edwards from Willy (6/2/10)
Requisite Back Seater wave included...

(http://jcbeckman.zenfolio.com/img/s9/v15/p787780091-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jay Beckman on June 02, 2010, 11:29:29 PM
Talon Driver

(http://jcbeckman.zenfolio.com/img/s9/v14/p911107825-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jay Beckman on June 10, 2010, 05:23:27 PM
Edwards Talon Taxiing Out...
(First LR3 Post .. Note the use of the AzAP .PNG file as a watermark!)

(http://jcbeckman.zenfolio.com/img/s6/v5/p770249136.jpg)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jay Beckman on June 12, 2010, 12:39:05 AM
Standing Ready...

(http://jcbeckman.zenfolio.com/img/s10/v18/p975560850-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: David Loera on June 12, 2010, 10:18:14 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4034/4695348196_9265126421_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/burneraviation/4695348196/)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Bubak on June 13, 2010, 07:11:50 AM
Jay, David....nice!!
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Joe Copalman on June 23, 2010, 11:30:53 PM
Chargin' Cheetah at Willie back in April: 
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4065/4550042740_63ff393cb0_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24526864@N03/4550042740/"%20Cheetahs"%20by%20joe_stremph,%20on%20Flickr)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jbong on June 24, 2010, 01:51:30 PM
Very nice Picture Mr.Joe
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: David Loera on July 07, 2010, 09:07:04 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4077/4773544534_f216d92982_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/burneraviation/4773544534/)
Taken back in March.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Joe Copalman on July 10, 2010, 02:30:42 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4097/4780355339_621ed4f9c2_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24526864@N03/4780355339/)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: wingsnstuff on July 12, 2010, 12:28:30 PM
David, was that a NASA bird?  I'd see them flying into Patrick AFB and the Cape when the Shuttle Astronauts were arriving from Houston prior to a launch.  They really look nice in that white and light blue paint scheme.  Nice shot!
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: David Loera on July 12, 2010, 09:22:44 PM
yeah its a NASA bird, Thank for the kudos
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Joe Copalman on August 19, 2010, 06:33:42 PM
Caught a pair of Talons from the 469th FTS today.  Never seen any birds from that squadron before today, turns out they just stood up at Sheppard a few months back.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4079/4908622841_5b1a6b20dc_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24526864@N03/4908622841/)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: David Loera on September 04, 2010, 10:05:16 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4084/4958653847_23fe1817b0_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/burneraviation/4958653847/)
87th FTS "Red Bulls"
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Daniel DeSart on October 18, 2010, 11:31:29 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4040/5094794618_8ed0e60264_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/23591285@N07/5094794618/)
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/23591285@N07/5094794618/)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jay Beckman on October 26, 2010, 04:09:53 PM
Talon Driver out of Beale AFB
Chino, California .. May, 2010

(http://crosswindimages.com/img/s10/v17/p948725716.jpg)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: jslugman on October 26, 2010, 05:07:19 PM
I'd be ordering a bag-ass print of this if I were that guy. Most excellent.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jay Beckman on October 26, 2010, 06:09:40 PM
Danke Amigo...   :)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Warbird Keith on October 26, 2010, 10:27:43 PM
Jay, Huggy (pilot) would love a copy of that shot! Great Shot!
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jay Beckman on October 27, 2010, 12:05:34 AM
Quote from: Warbird Keith on October 26, 2010, 10:27:43 PM
Jay, Huggy (pilot) would love a copy of that shot! Great Shot!


If you know how to reach him, I'd be glad to pass one along...
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Daniel DeSart on October 27, 2010, 02:00:18 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4053/5121017945_3227091a7d_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/23591285@N07/5121017945/)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Joe Copalman on November 14, 2010, 09:18:18 AM
Beale Blackbird @ Willie.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4083/5175345488_8db2f4eda6_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24526864@N03/5175345488/)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jay Beckman on December 18, 2010, 10:03:04 PM
509th Talon departing Willie
(http://crosswindimages.com/img/s1/v19/p1025737311.jpg)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: David Loera on January 28, 2011, 05:11:59 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4112/5396346113_80bd8af02e_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/burneraviation/5396346113/)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5011/5396944420_27c701e3a2_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/burneraviation/5396944420/)
first time I've been out to Willie since October.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Dave S. on January 28, 2011, 05:34:07 PM
Welcome back Dave!
From Luke today, not your usual perspective of a T-38

(http://www.roxphotography.com/img/s1/v20/p413393423-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Brian Lockett on January 30, 2011, 09:17:49 AM
Northrop T-38 Talons visiting Luke AFB on January 28:

(http://air-and-space.com/20110128%20Luke/_BEL3084%20T-38C%2067-14931%2025FTS%20left%20side%20landing%20l.jpg) Northrop T-38C Talon 67-14931 of the 25th Flying Training Squadron Warbirds based at Vance Air Force Base, Oklahoma

(http://air-and-space.com/20110128%20Luke/_BEL3125%20T-38A-65%2066-4361%20435FTS%20left%20front%20landing%20l.jpg) Northrop T-38C Talon 66-4361 of the 435th Flying Training Squadron Black Eagles based at Randolph Air Force Base, Texas.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: bilwor on February 11, 2011, 07:11:28 AM
Northrop T-38A Talon 68-8185  c/n T.6190 & Northrop T-38A Talon 64-13297 c/n N.5726  BB 1st Reconnaissance Squadron  9th Reconnaissance Wing, Beale AFB   D-M  02/10/11

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4146/5434824743_19ff9b8fe1_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jeff D. Welker on February 13, 2011, 03:53:20 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4135/5441443653_b0b52205d9_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffwelker/5441443653/)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5295/5441443851_39a5e704d7_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffwelker/5441443851/)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5177/5460590656_41f50c6e08_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffwelker/5460590656/)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Joe Copalman on March 25, 2011, 04:24:18 PM
Beat-up Boxin' Bear departing Willie:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5179/5557332353_9d3e7f2acc_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24526864@N03/5557332353/)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jeff D. Welker on March 25, 2011, 06:37:11 PM
Very cool photo Joe.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jay Beckman on March 25, 2011, 09:25:38 PM
Do we know what the straps / stripes are on the intake trunks?
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Paul Dumm on April 09, 2011, 07:00:39 AM
(http://pdumm.smugmug.com/Airplanes/Military/KIWA-8/1245209685_5RqKj-L.jpg) (http://pdumm.smugmug.com/Airplanes/Military/10762880_k8GMr#1245209685_5RqKj-A-LB)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jeff D. Welker on April 23, 2011, 09:21:13 PM
^ Paul, nice capture. That NASA bird is my white whale - literally! Every time I see him inbound on FlightAware, he is gone before I can get out to Willie and take his picture. I missed him twice this week. Here is a photo of 2 Talon's from Beale heading home this afternoon.

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5023/5647927759_f699cc2214_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffwelker/5647927759/)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Joe Copalman on April 24, 2011, 11:12:39 AM
Quote from: Jay Beckman on March 25, 2011, 09:25:38 PM
Do we know what the straps / stripes are on the intake trunks?

Sorry for the delayed response, missed this when it was originally posted.  Intake ribbing is the result of the Propulsion Modernization Program, which involves modifying the intakes and exhausts of T-38Cs.  There are only a handful of C-models that haven't been PMPed-out, and none of the As (Beale, Holloman, Whiteman) are getting the mod.  Last I heard, these birds weren't being repainted until they went in for major maintenance (I don't know the precise lingo).
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Joe Copalman on April 24, 2011, 06:29:28 PM
I believe the engines are the same J85s, they're just being modified. 
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jay Beckman on April 24, 2011, 07:19:51 PM
Is it a duct shape change or simply some reinforcement?
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Joe Copalman on April 24, 2011, 10:24:43 PM
Duct shape change.  Go through your T-38 shots and look at the Beale/Whiteman/Holloman birds (all As) then compare that with the intakes on most of the CB/EN/RA/VN (mostly C) birds.  The PMP-ed C-models have noticeably wider intakes.  They also have the vented exhausts, as opposed to the straight-nozzled exhausts on As and non-PMP Cs.   
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Chris Kennedy on April 24, 2011, 10:40:21 PM
There's some information about the PMP here.

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-090121-037.pdf
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jeff D. Welker on April 25, 2011, 12:23:45 PM
Quote from: Joe Copalman on March 25, 2011, 04:24:18 PM
Beat-up Boxin' Bear departing Willie:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5179/5557332353_9d3e7f2acc_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24526864@N03/5557332353/)


Are you guys sure it is duct shape and not duct tape? That looks like duct tape to me  ;D

Nice capture Joe.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: jslugman on April 27, 2011, 04:42:32 PM
Nozzle comp shot:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2439/3981718174_76d7d66086_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/james_orear/3981718174/)
USAF and NASA T-38 Talons KIWA by James O'Rear acm0627 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/james_orear/3981718174/) by James "JSlugman" O'Rear (http://www.flickr.com/people/james_orear/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jeff D. Welker on April 28, 2011, 05:38:07 PM
Based upon the recent information from Joe and Chris Kennedy - I'd say no. This Talon has not undergone the "Propulsion Modernization". I don't see the "vented" exhausts or wider intakes. To me, the intakes seem to have the angle forward found on the non-modernized models. Let's see if Joe or Chris agrees.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jeff D. Welker on May 16, 2011, 10:55:56 PM
MONET DOES TALONS  :o
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5124/5729399498_a3351818e8_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffwelker/5729399498/)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Joe Copalman on May 16, 2011, 11:46:22 PM
Cool treatment Jeff.  38s bleed heat like nobody's business, can make for some artistic opportunities without getting too crazy in Photoshop.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jeff D. Welker on May 17, 2011, 05:52:44 AM
Quote from: Joe Copalman on May 16, 2011, 11:46:22 PM
Cool treatment Jeff.  38s bleed heat like nobody's business, can make for some artistic opportunities without getting to crazy in Photoshop.

Thanks Joe - they sure do put off the heat. Just compress it with a telephoto lens and vuala  ;)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: jslugman on May 23, 2011, 06:42:27 PM
Love love love that jelly air Jeff.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Dave S. on May 24, 2011, 06:06:08 AM
Quote from: jslugman on May 23, 2011, 06:42:27 PM
... jelly air ...

That's the best, most perfect description for heat waves!  You should copyright that!
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jeff D. Welker on May 24, 2011, 06:41:44 AM
Thanks James. As Dave said; you've got the perfect description for the look of that heat mirage.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: jslugman on May 24, 2011, 09:14:52 AM
Not mine, heard it first from Nigel Blake.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Joe Copalman on June 05, 2011, 12:01:25 AM
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2244/5799269460_31af17b607_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24526864@N03/5799269460/)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Joe Copalman on August 10, 2011, 09:17:51 PM
HEATBLEEDER
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6183/6030838849_1332aa9097_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24526864@N03/6030838849/)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Chetan on August 18, 2011, 06:47:43 PM
Talon from Beale, at DM.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jay Beckman on August 25, 2011, 03:03:01 AM
You can't beat EAA AirVenture for the "I wonder what will show up next?" factor...
The boys from Randolph came calling.

(http://crosswindimages.com/img/v34/p366369697.jpg)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jeff D. Welker on August 28, 2011, 11:36:40 AM
Red Bulls taxiing to the ramp at Willie in the ever-changing light and conditions of the late afternoon Arizona monsoon.

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6084/6089986776_d47e0d631e_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffwelker/6089986776/)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Joe Copalman on August 28, 2011, 12:00:23 PM
I really like the look of this shot Jeff.  It looks like one of the few HDR-done-right shots that you see every once in a blue moon among aviation shooters.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jeff D. Welker on August 28, 2011, 12:31:16 PM
Quote from: Joe Copalman on August 28, 2011, 12:00:23 PM
I really like the look of this shot Jeff.  It looks like one of the few HDR-done-right shots that you see every once in a blue moon among aviation shooters.

Thanks for the kind words Joe. While it is not a true HDR image, it has many of the same attributes. I got lucky with the light popping through the clouds at the right moment. Good light makes all the difference IMHO. I think sometimes we become so used to the glaring light and cloudless skies we typically have in AZ that we forget what good light can do for an image. Lately I've really been studying the art of making proper exposures in the camera. Jay has really mastered proper exposure - just look at his recent images for Osh. I've got a lot to learn; however, once in a while the gears mess in my brain pan and I get things to work.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jay Beckman on October 30, 2011, 11:10:53 PM
Mystery Talon...  Anyone know the home base?
(http://crosswindimages.com/img/s11/v33/p275018265-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Joe Copalman on October 31, 2011, 12:53:59 PM
923 is going to Langley and will most likely be sporting an "FF" tailcode. 
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jay Beckman on November 23, 2011, 01:23:31 AM
Texan on the fence...
(Not something you usually encounter!)
(http://crosswindimages.com/img/s11/v30/p48879608.jpg)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Ned Harris on January 15, 2012, 09:52:07 AM
T-38 (s/n 66-8379) departing Willie on 1/13/12.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7173/6701765997_7ae61a769f_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ned_harris/6701765997/)
_92W1262 T-38C (s/n 66-8379) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ned_harris/6701765997/) by Ned Harris (http://www.flickr.com/people/ned_harris/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Joe Copalman on January 28, 2012, 08:51:32 PM
WE'RE GOIN' STREAKIN'!!!!
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7010/6779769935_26ba3a6caa_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24526864@N03/6779769935/)
Obviously not the shot I wanted, but it still caught my eye more than the other shots I got. 

Naked Holloman Test bird departing Willie.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: David Loera on January 28, 2012, 10:01:22 PM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7010/6780052175_ec434dd335_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/burneraviation/6780052175/)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Daniel DeSart on February 28, 2012, 12:26:45 PM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7046/6938907023_e67f88fb70_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/23591285@N07/6938907023/)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Brian Lockett on March 10, 2012, 10:26:51 PM
T-38As of the 90th Fighter Training Squadron Boxin' Bears based at Shepherd Air Force Base, Texas at Willie on March 9, 2012:
(http://air-and-space.com/20120309%20IWA/20120309%20IWA_0508%20T-38A-65%2066-4386%2090FTS%20right%20rear%20landing%20l.jpg)
66-4386

(http://air-and-space.com/20120309%20IWA/20120309%20IWA_0561%20T-38A-60%2065-10445%2090FTS%20right%20rear%20take-off%20l.jpg)
65-10445

(http://air-and-space.com/20120309%20IWA/20120309%20IWA_0578%20T-38A-60%2064-13239%2090FTS%20right%20rear%20take-off%20l.jpg)
64-13239

(http://air-and-space.com/20120309%20IWA/20120309%20IWA_0588%20T-38A-60%2064-13239%2090FTS%20right%20rear%20in%20flight%20l.jpg)
64-13239
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Barry Griffiths on March 11, 2012, 11:38:35 AM
  (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7181/6827044492_fdb477049b_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/collingwoodbarry/6827044492/)
Northrop T-38A Talon AF-64-13304 USAF 9th Reconnaisance Wing (9RW) Beale AFB, CA Pre-flight checks (http://www.flickr.com/photos/collingwoodbarry/6827044492/) by Barry Griffiths CAD (http://www.flickr.com/people/collingwoodbarry/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Scott Youmans on March 21, 2012, 04:58:38 PM
T-38A - Roadrunners - 2009
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jeff D. Welker on April 28, 2012, 01:47:48 PM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7242/7122317201_cb17ce53ff_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffwelker/7122317201/)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: josephea6 on June 12, 2012, 06:59:39 AM
T-38 from Beale resting at Gateway...
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jeff D. Welker on June 12, 2012, 07:22:10 AM
^^^^ Very nice capture Joe.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: josephea6 on June 12, 2012, 07:56:34 AM
Thank you Jeff!
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jay Beckman on June 14, 2012, 02:36:08 AM
Black Beauty
(http://crosswindimages.com/img/s2/v52/p1557489.jpg)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Tower Guy on August 11, 2012, 12:51:36 PM
I was fortunate the sky was overcast, helps to subdue the reflections on the paint.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7133/7760770948_e863d9fd0d_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/controltower/7760770948/)
IMG_3523 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/controltower/7760770948/) by Tower Guy (http://www.flickr.com/people/controltower/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Scott Youmans on August 13, 2012, 07:46:51 PM
Great shot Harvey.  These black T-38s are not easy to shoot.  Mine always look like crinkled up tin cans.  This one looks like it came out of a mold by comparison.  Perhaps the HO refers to the scale!
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jay Beckman on August 13, 2012, 07:51:36 PM
A little faux T/S effect and it would look "HO"  ;D
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Scott Youmans on August 13, 2012, 09:12:31 PM
It really would.  It's amazing how effective than can be.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jay Beckman on August 13, 2012, 09:16:50 PM
The new T/S Blur in CS6 is fun to play with...
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Brian Lockett on September 28, 2012, 10:19:24 AM
(http://air-and-space.com/20120920%20EDW/_BL30694%20AT-38B%2063-8112%20412TW%20left%20front%20landing%20l.jpg)
Northrop AT-38B Talon 63-8112 of the 412th Test Wing AT Edwards AFB on September 20, 2012.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Ned Harris on October 26, 2012, 09:19:42 AM
T-38C, HT tail code, MCAS Yuma, 10-18-12.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8331/8125204353_9e9686bab8_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ned_harris/8125204353/)
_92W3537 T-38C (s/n 62-3703) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ned_harris/8125204353/) by Ned Harris (http://www.flickr.com/people/ned_harris/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Paul Dumm on October 26, 2012, 03:19:00 PM
Thats got some thing new added to it. ??
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Scott Youmans on October 26, 2012, 04:45:53 PM
Quote from: Paul Dumm on October 26, 2012, 03:19:00 PM
Thats got some thing new added to it. ??
GoPro mount
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Joe Copalman on October 26, 2012, 07:43:39 PM
Quote from: Paul Dumm on October 26, 2012, 03:19:00 PM
Thats got some thing new added to it. ??

It's one of the 586th FLTS birds out of Holloman.  They have a few T-38s with all sorts of non-standard pylons and probes and such.

Cool shot, Ned.  Haven't seen one in that scheme yet.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Tower Guy on November 18, 2012, 11:09:16 AM
Black Eagles
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8209/8196180509_acd901dd5f_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/controltower/8196180509/)
Beautiful day for flying. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/controltower/8196180509/) by Tower Guy (http://www.flickr.com/people/controltower/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jay Beckman on January 17, 2013, 06:23:15 PM
Black Beauty
(http://crosswindimages.com/img/s8/v78/p1385561138-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Scott Youmans on January 17, 2013, 10:46:48 PM
Really nice image Jay! Those black T-38s are tough to shoot.  The clouds really work well.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Joe Copalman on January 17, 2013, 11:04:03 PM
Quote from: Scott Youmans on January 17, 2013, 10:46:48 PM
Really nice image Jay! Those black T-38s are tough to shoot.  The clouds really work well.

Agreed, Beale, Holloman, and Whiteman -38s are all total glare monsters.  Some of the few aircraft best shot on cloudy days.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jay Beckman on January 18, 2013, 12:28:06 AM
Thanks Gents.

I agree.  Absence of light can be an ally in such cases.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Brian Lockett on February 15, 2013, 02:05:54 PM
Talons at Luke:
(http://air-and-space.com/Luke%20Air%20Force%20Base/19750217%20AT-38B%2061-0866%2057FWW%20right%20side%20landing%20l.jpg)
Northrop AT-38B-40-NO Talon 61-0866 of the 57 FWW based at Nellis AFB, landing at Luke on February 17, 1975. It was retired to AMARC as TF0111 on August 30, 1991.

(http://air-and-space.com/Luke%20Air%20Force%20Base/19861125%20T-38A-40-NO%2061-0851%20right%20front%20landing%20l.jpg)
Northrop T-38A-40-NO Talon 61-0851 of the 4477th TES landing at Luke on November 25, 1985.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Mike Margolis on February 09, 2014, 10:37:15 PM
My fini flight as a T-38 UPT IP - Willie, 1989
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Mike Margolis on February 09, 2014, 10:42:09 PM
And, my fini flight as a T-38 PIT IP from Randolph - 1991
2,000 total hours. 1,000 front seat landings and 1,000 back seat landings - it was awesome!
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Anna M. Wood on March 29, 2014, 01:56:17 PM
First Light

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2902/13495000035_45314362ff_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/myvpmp)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Scott Youmans on March 29, 2014, 02:15:56 PM
Very nicely done Anna!
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Anna M. Wood on March 29, 2014, 02:47:45 PM
Thank you Scott...   ;D
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Tower Guy on March 29, 2014, 03:26:32 PM
First light, great light. very nice photo Anna.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Mike Margolis on March 29, 2014, 09:08:10 PM
Awesome "White Rocket" shot!!
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Anna M. Wood on March 29, 2014, 09:32:31 PM
Thank you Gentlemen...   :)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: bilwor on July 13, 2014, 09:24:23 AM
Davis-Monthan AFB 07/10/14
Northrop T-38A "Talon" (N5694)(USAF 64-13265)(WM 354th Combat Training Squadron Follow US Whiteman AFB, MO)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5537/14642332714_e7522b0f82_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oiTMoj)Northrop T-38A Talon cnN5694 USAF 64-13265 WM 354 CTS a (https://flic.kr/p/oiTMoj) by Bill Word (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: bilwor on July 13, 2014, 09:26:16 AM
Davis-Monthan AFB 07/10/14
Northrop T-38A "Talon" (T6024)(USAF 67-14831)(WM 354th Combat Training Squadron Follow US Whiteman AFB, MO)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3904/14642332564_0fc84103e4_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oiTMkJ)Northrop T-38A Talon cnT6024 USAF 67-14831 WM 354 CTS c (https://flic.kr/p/oiTMkJ) by Bill Word (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Tower Guy on July 13, 2014, 10:45:51 AM
Great shots on the T38 Bill, those black birds are beautiful but difficult to shoot because of how shiny they are, so much reflection. You nailed both, great work!
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: bilwor on July 13, 2014, 01:05:56 PM
Thanks very much, Harvey

bill
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jonathan Navarro on September 30, 2014, 05:25:29 PM
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2946/15209144839_472282061e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/paYQTa)Northrop T-38A Talon (https://flic.kr/p/paYQTa) by Jonathan Navarro (https://www.flickr.com/people/87185297@N03/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Ned Harris on November 09, 2014, 05:56:49 AM
Ellington Field, TX. 10/31/14

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7479/15127144014_bf969b53f5_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/p3JyTQ)_X5A1047 NASA T-38, N961NA (https://flic.kr/p/p3JyTQ) by Ned Harris (https://www.flickr.com/people/36593690@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Jonathan Navarro on November 25, 2014, 02:49:32 PM
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8629/15878996445_1031c24cef_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qcb1qM)
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: David Loera on November 28, 2014, 10:10:09 PM
3 38s
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7545/15717093497_2f92203092_b.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/burneraviation/15717093497)
from 09 with my S5IS
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Brian Corbett on December 08, 2014, 02:53:38 PM
From the PASM night shoot in April.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7552/15976784941_7361db76cb_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qkPcxk)
IMG_7237-WM (https://flic.kr/p/qkPcxk) by uaz28ss01 (https://www.flickr.com/people/30977962@N04/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Mike Margolis on December 08, 2014, 08:29:56 PM
Nice shot Brian!! I'm quite partial to the T-38 as I've spent over 2,000 airborne hours in them!
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Ned Harris on April 02, 2015, 10:15:15 AM
T-38C (s/n 64-13264), Edward's AFB, 3-20-15.

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8698/17010109782_c213841821_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rV8g1S)_31A4313 T-38C (s/n 64-13264) (https://flic.kr/p/rV8g1S) by Ned Harris (https://www.flickr.com/people/36593690@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Bjorn van der Flier on April 03, 2018, 01:09:27 PM
Another one from Star wars Canyon...

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/891/41205039991_398cb63d4c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25M9APZ)63-8112/ED T-38C (https://flic.kr/p/25M9APZ) by Bjorn van der Flier (https://www.flickr.com/photos/79988143@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: scottcolbath on April 05, 2018, 06:57:02 PM
Sweet. I really need to get out there.

S.C.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: scottcolbath on April 05, 2018, 06:57:45 PM
Quote from: Bjorn van der Flier on April 03, 2018, 01:09:27 PM
Another one from Star wars Canyon...

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/891/41205039991_398cb63d4c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25M9APZ)63-8112/ED T-38C (https://flic.kr/p/25M9APZ) by Bjorn van der Flier (https://www.flickr.com/photos/79988143@N02/), on Flickr

Quoting the pic from my useless post at the top of a new page.  ;D

S.C.
Title: Re: Northrop T-38 Talon
Post by: Bjorn van der Flier on April 16, 2018, 05:26:14 PM
doesn't matter Scott, but you definately need to go there.
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