Arizona Aviation Photographers (AzAP)

Aviation Photography Genres => Critique => Topic started by: David Loera on January 12, 2010, 03:31:52 PM

Title: new camera need help
Post by: David Loera on January 12, 2010, 03:31:52 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4024/4269423895_ba5495e2a6_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/burneraviation/4269423895/)

Alot of my shot at Skyharbor are coming out like this. what am I doing wrong?

shooting at AV with ISO 200
Title: Re: new camera need held
Post by: Jay Beckman on January 12, 2010, 03:58:25 PM
Need a little more info Dave...

What Body?
What Lens / Focal Length?
What Shutter Speed?
What f/stop?
Title: Re: new camera need held
Post by: David Loera on January 12, 2010, 04:19:29 PM
Cannon XSI
75-300, 300
1/2000
Title: Re: new camera need held
Post by: Dave S. on January 12, 2010, 04:30:35 PM
What is your image quality on the camera? By that, I mean:

JPEG or RAW

If JPEG, is it small, medium or large?

Does that 75-300 have image stabilization?  If so, was it in mode 1 or 2?

Dave S.
Title: Re: new camera need held
Post by: Jay Beckman on January 12, 2010, 04:32:24 PM
And do you have a UV Filter on the lens?

If so, remove it ASAP...
Title: Re: new camera need held
Post by: Dave S. on January 12, 2010, 04:35:16 PM
Not to hijack from Dave's question, but what would you recommend in lieu of a UV filter for the front of the lens (thinking in terms of glass protection here)?

Dave S.
Title: Re: new camera need help
Post by: Jay Beckman on January 12, 2010, 04:37:38 PM
Nothing...

IMO, "Protective Filters" are one of the biggest upsell scams in photography.

Unless you're shooting paintball, are at the beach in a hurricane or need to mount a filter to complete the weathersealing with a Canon "L" lens they're pointless and rob you of image quality.

The only screw on filter I carry is a Polarizer.
Title: Re: new camera need help
Post by: Dave S. on January 12, 2010, 04:39:35 PM
Thanks!

I'll consider myself scammed!
Title: Re: new camera need help
Post by: Jay Beckman on January 12, 2010, 04:44:32 PM
Sorry...

I get a little worked up over the notion of people being unduly separated them from their cash.   >:(
Title: Re: new camera need help
Post by: Dave S. on January 12, 2010, 04:48:45 PM
No sweat here, glad to have added a little bit more knowledge today.  Sad part is, I just bought a replacement UV filter this afternoon.  One of my unruly lenses decided to jump out of the bag.  Crunched the rim of the filter, but the rest of the lens is still bueno!
Title: Re: new camera need help
Post by: Dave S. on January 12, 2010, 04:50:50 PM
So, back to helping Dave L. out...

Dave, please let us know asap about the rest of these questions.
Title: Re: new camera need help
Post by: Jay Beckman on January 12, 2010, 04:52:10 PM
Quote from: Dave S. on January 12, 2010, 04:48:45 PM
No sweat here, glad to have added a little bit more knowledge today.  Sad part is, I just bought a replacement UV filter this afternoon.  One of my unruly lenses decided to jump out of the bag.  Crunched the rim of the filter, but the rest of the lens is still bueno!


Ouch...

Using Lens Hoods however .. always a good idea!
Title: Re: new camera need help
Post by: Matt Ottosen on January 12, 2010, 04:55:49 PM
Quote from: Dave S. on January 12, 2010, 04:35:16 PM
Not to hijack from Dave's question, but what would you recommend in lieu of a UV filter for the front of the lens (thinking in terms of glass protection here)?

Dave S.

Quote from: FlyingPhotog on January 12, 2010, 04:37:38 PM
Nothing...

IMO, "Protective Filters" are one of the biggest upsell scams in photography.

I agree, I hate filters and I never use them!
Title: Re: new camera need help
Post by: jslugman on January 12, 2010, 05:52:56 PM
Same, I only use them when I KNOW there's a credible danger around (like child fingers w/ peanut butter).
Title: Re: new camera need help
Post by: David Loera on January 12, 2010, 06:57:39 PM
no UV filter was used
JPEG...Large
no image stabilization for the lens
Title: Re: new camera need help
Post by: Joe Copalman on January 12, 2010, 07:25:21 PM
For what it's worth, that's my craptastic Canon 75-300 lens and it absolutely HATES white airplanes.  I'd say that lens is at least 75% of the problem.

I've also been checking your EXIF data on Flickr and it looks like you're out at 300mm on most of them.  Pretty much any zoom lens is going to drop off in image quality as you approach max focal length.  Even with my Sigma, if I need to get up close to something far away, I'll extend it out to 500mm and then dial it back just a little bit.  
Title: Re: new camera need help
Post by: josephea6 on January 12, 2010, 07:27:14 PM
Check your white balance sir.
Title: Re: new camera need help
Post by: Joe Copalman on January 12, 2010, 07:48:57 PM
Full EXIF data on this shot is here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/burneraviation/4269423895/meta/
Title: Re: new camera need help
Post by: David Loera on January 12, 2010, 08:21:35 PM
I got it now guys Thanks
Title: Re: new camera need help
Post by: Jay Beckman on January 12, 2010, 09:10:06 PM
I notice the image looks MUCH better on Flickr than it does linked here.

Someghing wonky in how Flickr links image perhaps?  How much of a crop is this Dave?
Title: Re: new camera need help
Post by: David Loera on January 13, 2010, 11:27:08 AM
about 10%
Title: Re: new camera need help
Post by: Jay Beckman on January 13, 2010, 12:28:57 PM
Ok so the crop isn't extreme.

How large an imge do you upload to Flickr?  I'm wondering if it's a down-sample issue maybe?

Maybe try a 1:1 test?  Resize to 800x or 1024x before uploading and link to the full size here and see if it looks better.

Just spitballin'